Katherine waves hi at everyone Caitlyn smiles shibumi kneels next to Katherine Katherine arranges her notes and smiles at everyone shibumi sits back on his heels to listen Katherine checks her watch desdimona digs out her pen/paper to take notes for her hubby PA SYSTEM: Crossdressing demo in the parlor in 1 minute! .go parlor to attend Katherine smiles again and clears her throat Silkn wonders ... shibumi looks confused. notes? i should be taking notes? Katherine says: No shib, you're the example. the example doesn't take notes. shibumi blushes and nods. shibumi exclaims: oops... and i showed up undressed! desdimona snickers Katherine says: you're supposed to be undressed Katherine grins at everyone. Katherine says: First, I'd like to welcome you to my very first solo discussion ever. Silkn smiles softly Katherine says: I'm not nervous. I'm not. desdimona giggles shibumi looks at Katherine and grins.. and wonders if your favorite christmas song is .. "all i want for christmas is my stockings filled with you" Katherine grins at shib. shh. sit there and look pretty shibumi nods... yes, Maam. Katherine says: I decided to do this because crossdressing has become a recent passion of mine. Katherine says: I'm not an expert. Katherine says: this is going to be an informal discussion, so please feel free to ask questions. Katherine smiles Katherine peeks at her notes Katherine says: Dressing up as a woman does not have to be an elaborate affair Katherine says: we don't always wear garters and corsets and 3 layers of make up Katherine says: and we dont totter around on high heels and squeeze ourselfs into pany hose for our health. Katherine says: we do it because someone, somewhere decided it was sexy. Shasha curses that someone every morning Katherine grins. Shasha says: sorry Katherine please continue Katherine says: but we can *feel* sexy without all that decoration Katherine says: sometimes the simplest things make us feel sexy Silkn smiles: my most recent encounter and i both sat and talked about how much we could 'feel pretty' more often :) Katherine says: and that's what I want to discuss. How to feel sexy Katherine says: crossdressing doesnt mean you go out and buy your boy a whole new wardrobe Katherine says: shave his face and put a little lipstick on his lips Katherine smiles. file his nails and polish them Katherine asks: who wants to spend 45 minutes putting on a face for a scene that's gonna melt off or smear with the first kiss? Katherine says: I'm impatient. I want to get to the good stuff. fyrebrand grins and get on your leathers ;) Katherine laughs. Katherine says: I don't reccomend a lot of eyeliner and things around the eyes, it *is* hard to wash off Silkn says: everyone isn't the same... i've been with people that want to do all the making up to show off... and others who want to be made up... Katherine nods to Silkn. Katherine says: other easy things you can do within the comfort of your own home include dressing him in YOUR underclothes. Katherine says: some men like the thought of wearing women's clothing and some like the thought of wearing it after a woman has. Katherine says: so pull out your matching bra and panties. let HIM wear that shit he got you for valentines day fyrebrand snorts and grins Silkn smirks Lavicka giggles Katherine says: let his cock peep through those g-string lacy panties Katherine says: personally, I love the sight of a cock straining at delicate lace and satin desdimona gryns Caitlyn mmms Katherine says: other 'in the home things'... make him totter around in your high heels Katherine says: if they dont fit, check out a thrift shop. desdimona had to buy a special pair for her hubby.. he wears a size 14 men's :( Katherine says: you can get nearly anything at a thrift sho and cheap too. Katherine says: and people in thrift shops are used to seeing odd things come and go. make him try them on in the store Katherine says: and if you're up to it, stuff him in those damn pantyhose. Katherine hates pantyhose. fyrebrand thinks those shoe outlet places have big sizes too Katherine nods to fyrebrand. good suggestion! Katherine pulls shibumi up beside her fyrebrand says: and more people to embarass him with ;) voyr gigglesssssssss shibumi shivers... as he stands... Katherine says: so now we have this adorable man wearing my lipstick and my bra and panties, my shoes and pantyhose. Silkn tilts her head and admires... fyrebrand asks: do you call him he or she when dressed? Katherine says: if this is something new to your boy, it's always a good idea to reassure him Katherine says: She. Snake snaps a leash on Lavicka Lavicka kneels next to Snake Katherine asks: it's a general rule of thumb to call people what you see them as. Am I right? Snake smiles as he sits, stroking Lavicka's hair voyr says: like what fyrebrand says: usually but some crossdressers don't like she if they identify as male Katherine grins. fyrebrand says: but he's yours, call him whatever you like*WEG* Katherine says: he's mine. I call him that shibumi smiles softly fyrebrand shuts her arse up Snake is finding an eyepatch for the pirate scene. --- voyr says: Katherine dose this make him a cross dresser Katherine notes that fyrebrand has way more experience than I do and all the hard questions should go to her ;) Katherine says: ok, getting bnack on track voyr says: or is just a part of there bdsm fyrebrand is just a dyke who digs tv's lol Katherine says: other things you can do in the comfort of your own home Katherine tries not to laugh Katherine says: shave him. shave his whole body Silkn moans softly Katherine says: especially his cock and balls. men like women shaved. we can do the same thing. shibumi whimpers... Katherine says: and as a sidenote.. it's a good way to get rid of some of that awful backhair that has always thrown a wrench in your relationship fyrebrand asks: do you like shaving her or make her do it herself? Katherine says: I like to shave her. Katherine says: or watch her do it. fyrebrand nods Katherine smiles Katherine asks: anyone have any questions yet? Katherine asks: any ideas to share? Snake stays outta this one ;) Katherine looks around.. anyone? fyrebrand says: I think the shaving is a good one, and easy Silkn ponders Katherine says: I adore shaved men. voyr says: mmmmmmmmm fyrebrand says: careful to be easy on the skin if they have never shaved before shibumi makes sure he's closely shaved. Lavicka is putting a new rubber band on the Lone Ranger mask. --- Katherine says: Yes. just like I'd be careful if I decided to shave MY pubic hair. fyrebrand nods Katherine pulls shib's panties down to check. Katherine grins. anyone else? suggestions? ideas? shibumi shivers. shibumi says: if you are dressing a guy who's.. not used to it... Katherine pulls out a dolly parton wig and slips it on shib's head. Katherine says: wigs are good too. fyrebrand says: oooohhhh shibumi says: sshaving is a good way to... sort of.. strip him of any resistance. fyrebrand claps her hands shibumi says: it definately changes his attitudte.. if he hasn't beens haved before voyr gigglesssssssssssssss elianne says: sounds great Shasha is putting a new rubber band on the Lone Ranger mask. --- Katherine smiles and nods at Shib. elianne says: using nair on his legs is good, removes the most coarce hair fyrebrand says: nair on legs that are really hairy doesn't work too well though shibumi models the wig.. and Katherine's panties. Katherine nods to Elianne. But read the bottle and do what it says: test on a small patch of skin first. fyrebrand asks: do you like using their own hair if it is lon enough or always wigs? Katherine says: rashes aren't pretty. Katherine says: It depends on them. Their hair is fine.. and a wig isn't always necessary elianne says: safety is imporetant, yes Silkn says: i like their on hair if it's long enough... Katherine smiles fyrebrand says: helps them pass more if you want to take them in public elianne says: perfume helps set the mood also. Nice feminine quality perfume Katherine grins at elianne. you took my next subject! fyrebrand says: and baby powder on the shaved skin eli :) Katherine says: I hadn't thought of baby powder. Katherine says: another thing, and you cn almost always find this in a thrift shop, is costume jewlry elianne says: eek :) Katherine says: you can get clip on earrings, necklaces and bravelets. fyrebrand says: lol fyrebrand says: or take them to the mall and have their ears pierced, or do it yourself if you can :) Katherine says: um bracelets elianne says: yes, and the best bodylotion Katherine says: that's if you want to go in public fyrebrand says: yes elianne asks: I read somewhere that people use tape to make chestmuscles into "breasts" by taping them..is that a myth? shibumi looks at fyrebrand... shhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!! Katherine says: You can do that. Katherine says: lacing them in a tight enough corset can do that too fyrebrand says: OCOCOCOCOCOCOCOCOCOCOCOCOCOCOCOCOCOCOCOCOCOCOCOCOCOCOBOBOBOBOBOBOBOBOBOBOBOCOC elianne exclaims: oh nice! Katherine says: you get a little cleavage Katherine eeps at fyrebrand. elianne says: I have a question elianne asks: the cock thing..is it to be hidden, or just bound with pink lace? Katherine says: sure Katherine says: however you want elianne says: mmm nice Katherine says: I like to see the cock Katherine says: I want to know my little girl is really a boy elianne smiles Katherine says: but there's things you can do to hide it. Snake says: Between the legs works Snake says: Freaks my gf out when I do that elianne says: yes, tape it down between the legs Katherine says: I've heard that they've been taped back, but I find that awfully painful to think about elianne says: yes...nice pain :) Lavicka giggles at snake and lays her head on his knee fyrebrand says: a gaff or dance belt (really tight panties that *crush* into submission* works Katherine says: and there's something called a gaff, though I've never seen it. it kind of holds you back Katherine says: or 8 pairs of panty hose elianne says: sounds goo duntil they get an erection fyrebrand grins Katherine grins. Silkn says: uhm... my last xd partner liked the lacey spandex kind of panties... they held him in yet looked very feminine... interesting around his erection too, btw elianne exclaims: ooh nice! Katherine nods.. Katherine says: if you;re really brave.. take him to a lingere shop. Katherine says: you can pretend he's helping you try things on, when you're really trying htem on HIM. fyrebrand says: here in new orleans there are lots of ships where you could make him model without a glance from the sales clerks lol Katherine says: the good thing about crossdressing is you dont have any unexplainable toys to hide Katherine says: all the clothes and things can be passed off as yours. elianne says: they have a mail order catalogue with lingerie for men, corsets and everything Katherine exclaims: well I think I need a subscription to that, Elianne! Alyana is finding an eyepatch for the pirate scene. --- elianne says: let em go get the addy :) Katherine grins. thank you! Katherine looks around.. anyone else have any ideas? fyrebrand says: ifyou have any problems with clothes or do want to go out places, there should be a local gender support group that will have shop names and numbers and places to go Katherine nods to fyrebrand voyr says: ehhe fyrebrand says: and if he likes the idea of being forced to be with men, take him to a gay club dressed :) Katherine laughs. Lavicka is choosing a costume. --- fyrebrand says: watch those cheeks flush so red he almost has a stroke lol voyr says: mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm fyrebrand asks: you ok there shibumi? *sweet smile* fyrebrand asks: oooh ooh do you have a femme name for him/her Katherine? elianne says: the catalogue is called Apres Noir ( french for after dark) shibumi says: uh... will be.. after some oxygen Katherine chuckles elianne says: call 561 997 1221 and give then the # 3436 Katherine smiles and points to Belinda. She's mine. Katherine exclaims: thank you Elianne! elianne says: welcome :) fyrebrand says: and such a pretty name :) Katherine chuckles. Mm. I like it. Katherine asks: anyone else have anything to add? elianne says: its from World Famous Catalogs, Hot fashion volume xxxI elianne shushes now Katherine says: I need to take my girl out to get fucked shibumi blushes softly.. and likes it, too. fyrebrand says: WOOWOO Katherine posts the number in the gathering elianne smiles elianne asks: does your girl love to be force dresed and fucked by men Katherine? :) elianne asks: how do you keep her safe? Katherine touches shib's cheek. do you like to be fucked my men? shibumi blushes... and nods. Katherine always watches when she fucks she's safe enough. elianne chuckles and likes the idea of that a whole lot Katherine exclaims: Hn. I adore it! fyrebrand grins, sounds nice and hot to me :) Katherine smiles at everyone shibumi groans... fyrebrand asks: does she suck cock well too? ;) Katherine says: I think that's about all I have to say. Katherine says: deliciously well. Lavicka excuses herself fr a moment fyrebrand says: always a plus :) elianne says: ok one question Katherine asks: Yes? elianne says: I assume forced cross dressing is negotiated... Rhea asks: doh. did i miss the meeting? Katherine says: Always Katherine says: everything is negotiated. elianne asks: what is a good way to negotiate the force issue without making it lose the punch? fyrebrand asks: ooh ooh can I answer??? elianne listens Katherine says: sure, fb. fyrebrand says: best thing is to negotiate it before but do not specify a time fyrebrand says: and then when they are offguard fyrebrand says: bang Katherine grins. Good idea. elianne says: niice fyrebrand says: wait til they are sleeping or goign home in the dark and it is empty so you can use a knife if you are into that :) elianne asks: do you go into detail just in case you wish to take it far, leaving them to wonder if you actually WILL go that far if they say yes? Katherine says: You can. Katherine says: I've been known to do that. elianne says: cool fyrebrand says: with my daddy she knows my limits and I know she womn't go past them without renegotiating so she has free reign on me Katherine says: it's good for anticipation. elianne says: mhmm fyrebrand says: last time she waited til I was poolside at a party and had a guy and two dykes jump me lol and we did a forced ponygrrl scene elianne chuckles voyr says: mmmmmmmmmmmmmm Katherine smiles. elianne exclaims: yumm! Lavicka kneels next to Snake Snake snaps a leash on Lavicka Katherine gathers her notes and smiles at everyone fyrebrand exclaims: thank you Kathwerine!!!! fyrebrand stands up and claps elianne exclaims: well done! elianne claps voyr clapssssssssssss fyrebrand says: and thank you Belinda :) Lavicka smiles.. thank you katherine :) elianne exclaims: yeeey! Katherine grins and pushes her girl forward to curtsy Snake smiles and claps fyrebrand wolfwhistles Belinda claps, delightedly fyrebrand exclaims: shake it baby! shibumi blushes.. and curtsies Lavicka grins Katherine kisses Belinda's cheek and then blows y'all kisses Katherine exclaims: thank you for coming! shibumi says: purrrrrs elianne smiles voyr says: can we gat a log of tonight Lavicka says: id just like to take a moment to let everyone know.. if you have any ideas for discussions or demo's, let one of the dm's here know and well get in touch with you elianne says: thank YOU Katherine says: The log will be up on the webpage, but I don't know when. voyr nodds Katherine snaps a leash on shibumi Katherine wiggles her eyebrows and waves Katherine says: gonna go fuck my girl if anyone wants to see. Alyana hmms Lavicka says: lucky her